Assimilate. What's your thoughts on what America could should do going forward? Do you believe we should be >> It's a Yeah, it's a great question and I think there's an easy answer going back to my makers versus takers point. If the primary motivation for an individual to come to this country is to be given benefits, to be given payments, to be given social services, to be given support, I think that that person should be denied immigration. If the primary motivation for the individual to come to the United States is to work to progress themselves, to become a maker, to create things, to work in such a way that they can generate income, save capital, buy things, advance their family's position because they are denied those rights due to the tyranny of the place that they're coming from, then they should be granted immigration status to come to this country and contribute. Because at the end of the day, what people may not like to hear, which is the truth, is that every single one of those people is actually net positive in growing our economy. And everyone thinks it's a zero sum game with respect to jobs in the United States. And we shouldn't let people into this country that create jobs. But the fundamental truth is that anyone that is productive, meaning they create more value than they take in, grows the economy and more jobs get created. And overall, we all benefit from having those individuals here in this country. Well, I would say >> so I'm all about I'm I'm all about discerning immigration not on the lines of some cultural like definition but really around that simple framing of are you going to get social support services or are you going to work and if you're
Levelvel jobs for many immigrants. Uh they will over time uh will probably move up the economic ladder, but for sure their children will move up the economic ladder as they get more education. So I don't think that's a good argument for restricting low-skilled immigration. I would like our immigration system to be more based on the concept of skills, not just family reunification as it is now. But we need people at both ends of the spectrum. We don't produce enough engineers or computer software uh people or doctors for that matter. And we don't produce enough people who are willing to take fairly low-skilled jobs. So we ought to have a a system that allows us to admit the people that we need. And by the way, we need about a million and a half to two million people every year legally if we are going to continue to grow as a nation and if we're going to continue to see our gross domestic product grow. Uh the fact that we've had lower im immigration uh in the last couple of years has not been good for our economy. >> Yeah. So what do you uh what do you make of the Trump administration on on immigration this term? Um, I I'll give you my own opinion first, which is that I was uh I was very happy to see that the border uh the the border crisis virtually overnight ended when Biden handed the keys over to Trump. Uh I think that illegal immigrants pouring over the
About, overall social integration challenges, and the this one's rough the low versus high-skill composition of who immigrates, which matters more than anything else. While immigration can boost GDP and can reduce federal deficits in the short-term, the benefits aren't linear or unlimited. Pumping in endless numbers of immigrants invariably eventually creates net costs, backlash, and social instability. Just look at history. Immigration expands the labor supply, which grows the economy by filling jobs, increasing productivity, and raising overall output. However, beyond a certain point, it saturates markets, especially for low-skilled work, leading to sharper wage drops, higher unemployment for natives, particularly those without high school diplomas, and reduces pressure for businesses to raise wages or invest in productivity enhancing tech or training. In essence, economies aren't infinitely elastic. Adding workers does boost supply, but if demand, jobs and capital, doesn't keep pace, you get inefficiencies like underemployment or black market labor, which we see both of right now. According to both the Manhattan Institute and National Affairs, the skill level of the immigrant population matters a great deal in terms of whether they'll be an economic contributor or a net cost to the system. High-skilled immigrants, for example, college educated, generate lifetime surpluses, but low-skilled ones
Americans making their own culture as Americans. This is a Puerto Rican man with a bunch of Puerto Ricans. >> This is a false equivalence because this is >> well the the demonstration that's happening here are all these other flags superseding the American flag. >> But >> and he's also got a political statement that he he he has he has these people surrounded by sugar canes and and making a statement about how America needs immigrant labor in order to survive. >> Do you disagree? I mean to a certain extent I do believe that Americans could just you know uh fulfill all the job roles in this country and I actually think it would have a deflationary effect as far as what home prices and and the cost of living. >> The problem is you can't force people to do jobs that they don't want to. >> No, you're right. Yeah. >> And I mean there's just that's why it's true of all societies why immigration is good. >> And look what I what I have to say as far as that America takes just about a million immigrants legal immigrants every year. We're the most generous country in the world as far as that. Japan takes about 400 immigrants per year. That's like nothing compared to us. England, not even close. We're the most generous country in the world as far as accepting legal immigrants. And yeah, come legally. And also the businesses and the people that are usurping labor because this is a thing that we should also consider somebody who's here illegally. There there there's this whole conversation about the welfare state and how they use our welfare. There's there's a whole other aspect. You're basically disenfranchising and exploiting labor. >> What's the employment rate right now? >> Wait, let me finish my point and we can get to you're basically exploiting labor and you're exploiting a group of people that are, you know, by working under the
Undeniable and I mean they're incredibly tragic and it's it's it's it's a fact and that's actually the truth of the American story immigration made our nation and there were hard truths and we have a hard truth right now and we need to have a secure border and we have to find a way to celebrate our immigrations and and the kinds of what immigrations and the contributions that they made to this nation uh and also to weed out or to minimize the kinds of negative kinds of things and those kinds of resources because we can't possibly support an unchecked kinds of a situation that we had and I described that if you had 300,000 people showing up at the border well that's the side of Pittsburgh you know the month like where are they going to go you know how are we going to give them an American dream uh already because they're all going to need to these certain kinds of resources and and that should never be controversial to say it's like we can't that's not sustainable and it's like we want for every immigrant their American Dream It's Impossible if it's if it's unchecked like that and it shouldn't be controversial to to to to anyone politically no it's just reasonable what you're saying it's reasonable um what could be done and who do you think is going to do a better job to uh boost our economy oh well I I I think it's undeniable too and uh you know I'm certainly not going to count some of the the experience of some people that have been hit by eggs or other things or you know inflation but but right now uh the
Would have been held by Americanborn workers. So just when you want to not really care about fellow man depending on what you believe is their citizenship rights or not, maybe this will get through to you. It's affecting you too. It's hurting you too, your family's bottom line. Across the cities with the sharpest rise in ICE arrests, employment fell 73% below what they would have seen absent the surge and 1.48% 48% in the 51 cities observed at least six months out. Again, the Brookings Institute calling the numbers for us. The study noted that companies who hire undocumented workers had less work to give, which is how Americanborn jobs have been impacted. The ice surge also hurt local economies more generally, which was found in a previous study. Consumer spending fell in immigrantheavy communities. The authors of the Brookings Institute report cite a study from earlier this year that suggested spending in Los Angeles neighborhoods with high levels of foreignb born residents well that slipped as much as 25% in the two months following the announcement of a local ICE campaign. You see the law is complete and growing. I should say complete in this way. Trump said uh they were stealing our jobs and
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